H_THL_2023A 02/07/2023 01:30:41 PM Committee Summary PUBLICSTAFF SUMMARY OF MEETINGHOUSE COMMITTEE ON TRANSPORTATION, HOUSING & LOCAL GOVERNMENT Date 02/07/2023 Attendance Boesenecker X Catlin X Dickson X Frizell X Lindsay * Mabrey * Mauro * Parenti X Vigil X Wilson X Winter T. X Lindstedt X Froelich X Time 01:30:41 PM to 07:54:09 PM Place LSB A This Meeting was called to order by Froelich This Report was prepared by April Bernard Hearing Items Action Taken hPanel Presentation Union Pacific Railroad, BNSF Railway, and American Short Line & Regional Railroad Association Committee Discussion Only hHB23-1023 Referred to the Committee of the Whole hHB23-1065 Amended, referred to House Appropriations hHB23-1090 Amended, referred to the Committee of the Whole Panel Presentation Union Pacific Railroad, BNSF Railway, and American Short Line & Regional Railroad Association - Committee Discussion Only 01:31:24 PM Andy Williams, Executive Director of Public Affairs representing the BNSF Railway, provided information about the railroad. Mr. Williams provided an overview of the railroad and Colorado and talked about different classes of railroads. Mr. Williams said that Union Pacific and BNSF serve the western half of the United States. He indicated that they operate in 46 states with 92,000 route miles. Nathan Anderson, representing the Union Pacific Railroad, provided information about the railroad. Mike Ogborn, representing the American Shortline Railroad, provided information about the railroad. 01:34:28 PM Mr. Ogborn talked about the 12 freight and three excursion short line railroads in Colorado. He said that in Colorado there are 2,545 miles of rail lines and mentioned that short lines are the first and last mile. Mr. Ogborn shared that there are 150 employees operating in Colorado. The railroad representatives talked about their work with other transportation agencies, including the Front Range Passenger Rail District. 01:38:51 PM Mr. Williams talked about the contribution that the railroad makes in Colorado, for example there are 2,259 employees in the state and the railroad pays $310.2 million annually for payroll in the state. He mentioned that the railroad transported 264,100 car loads of freight in 2022. Mr. Williams talked about commodities that the railroad moved in 2022, including coal, minerals, glass, stone, freight containers, and lumber and wood products. 01:41:55 PM Mr. Williams talked about safety, including a decrease in train accidents, injuries, and collisions at crossings. There was a discussion about the movement of freight with less fuel. 01:46:08 PM The panelists responded to questions from committee members. 01:55:14 PM The panelists continued to respond to questions from committee members. HB23-1023 - Referred to the Committee of the Whole 01:56:08 PM Representatives Lindstedt and Wilson, co-prime sponsors, talked about House Bill 23-1023 concerning the dollar amount of a special district contract that requires notice for bids. The bill changes the notice threshold for contracts from $60,000 to $120,000 and includes an adjustment for inflation every five years. 01:59:20 PM The bill sponsors responded to questions from committee members. 01:59:51 PM Michael Valdez, representing Special District Association of Colorado, was available to answer committee questions. John Chmil, representing the Special District Association of Colorado, testified in support of the bill. 02:01:43 PM The witnesses responded to questions from committee members. 02:04:53 PM The bill sponsors made closing remarks. 02:11:21 PM Motion Refer House Bill 23-1023 to the Committee of the Whole. Moved Lindstedt Seconded Wilson Boesenecker Yes Catlin Yes Dickson Yes Frizell Yes Lindsay Yes Mabrey Yes Mauro Yes Parenti Yes Vigil Yes Wilson Yes Winter T. Yes Lindstedt Yes Froelich Yes Final YES: 13 NO: 0 EXC: 0 ABS: 0 FINAL ACTION: PASS HB23-1065 - Amended, referred to House Appropriations Attachment Tag File Name Attachment http://www2.leg.state.co.us/CLICS/CLICS2023A/commsumm.nsf/0/E5D210A48ED1...$File/AttachmentAHB1065_L002.pdf?OpenElement AttachmentAHB1065_L002.pdf Attachment http://www2.leg.state.co.us/CLICS/CLICS2023A/commsumm.nsf/0/77C54880AED9...$File/AttachmentBHB1065UploadedPublicComments.pdf?OpenElement AttachmentBHB1065UploadedPublicComments.pdf Attachment http://www2.leg.state.co.us/CLICS/CLICS2023A/commsumm.nsf/0/DA8F46179DA2...$File/AttachmentCHB1065TextTestimony.pdf?OpenElement AttachmentCHB1065TextTestimony.pdf 02:11:36 PM The committee took a brief recess. 02:11:55 PM The committee came back to order. 02:14:08 PM Representatives Parenti and Story, co-prime sponsors, outlined House Bill 23-1065 concerning the scope of the Independent Ethics Commission's jurisdiction over ethics complaints against local government officials and employees. Local governments include municipalities, counties, special districts, or school districts. 02:19:13 PM The bill sponsors responded to questions from committee members. 02:25:54 PM The bill sponsors explained amendment L.002 (Attachment A). 02:35:56 PM The bill sponsors responded to questions from committee members. 02:47:05 PM The bill sponsors continued to respond to questions from committee members. 02:47:19 PM Dr. Dar-Lon Chang, representing themself, testified in support of the bill. Mr. JD Lobue, representing Coloradans for Metro District Reform, testified in support of the bill. Mr. John Henderson, representing themself, testified in support of the bill. Mr Dino Ioannides, representing the Independent Ethics Commission, testified to amend the bill. Ms. Gail Bell, representing themself, testified in support of the bill. Brian Matise, representing themself, testified in support of the bill. 02:54:02 PM The witnesses responded to questions from committee members. 03:17:42 PM The witnesses continued to respond to questions from committee members. 03:18:12 PM Mr. Steve Douglas, representing themself, testified in support of the bill. Mr. Jim Gibson, representing themself, testified in support of the bill. Charles Wolfersberger, representing several homeowner controlled metro districts, testified in support of the bill. Mrs. Fayre Ruszczyk, representing Coloradans for Metro District Reform, testified in support of the bill. Uploaded public comments are inluded as Attachment B. Uploaded text public comment is included as Attachment C. 03:25:17 PM The witnesses responded to questions from committee members. 03:42:36 PM The bill sponsors provided information about amendment L.002 (Attachment A). 03:43:24 PM Jed Franklin, representing the Office of Legislative Legal Services, testified about the bill. 03:46:19 PM Motion Adopt amendment L.002 (Attachment A). Moved Parenti Seconded Vigil Boesenecker Catlin Dickson Frizell Lindsay Mabrey Mauro Parenti Vigil Wilson Winter T. Lindstedt Froelich YES: 0 NO: 0 EXC: 0 ABS: 0 FINAL ACTION: Pass Without Objection 03:46:20 PM The bill sponsors made closing remarks. 03:49:31 PM Committee members made closing remarks. 03:51:06 PM Motion Refer House Bill 23-1065, as amended, to the Committee on Appropriations. Moved Parenti Seconded Lindstedt Boesenecker Yes Catlin No Dickson Yes Frizell No Lindsay Yes Mabrey Yes Mauro Yes Parenti Yes Vigil Yes Wilson No Winter T. No Lindstedt Yes Froelich Yes Final YES: 9 NO: 4 EXC: 0 ABS: 0 FINAL ACTION: PASS HB23-1090 - Amended, referred to the Committee of the Whole Attachment Tag File Name Attachment http://www2.leg.state.co.us/CLICS/CLICS2023A/commsumm.nsf/0/18815711499A...$File/AttachmentDHB1090Handout.pdf?OpenElement AttachmentDHB1090Handout.pdf Attachment http://www2.leg.state.co.us/CLICS/CLICS2023A/commsumm.nsf/0/38ED039127A4...$File/AttachmentEHB1090WitnessHandout.pdf?OpenElement AttachmentEHB1090WitnessHandout.pdf Attachment http://www2.leg.state.co.us/CLICS/CLICS2023A/commsumm.nsf/0/609475F67FDE...$File/AttachmentFHB1090UploadedPublicComment.pdf?OpenElement AttachmentFHB1090UploadedPublicComment.pdf Attachment http://www2.leg.state.co.us/CLICS/CLICS2023A/commsumm.nsf/0/5BABB5A9E47D...$File/AttachmentGHB1090TextTestimony.pdf?OpenElement AttachmentGHB1090TextTestimony.pdf Attachment http://www2.leg.state.co.us/CLICS/CLICS2023A/commsumm.nsf/0/7E253EB20B90...$File/AttachmentHHB1090_L002.pdf?OpenElement AttachmentHHB1090_L002.pdf 03:51:14 PM The committee took a brief recess. 03:51:37 PM The committee came back to order. 04:02:28 PM Representative Weissman, prime sponsor, introduced and explained House Bill 23-1090 concerning a prohibition on the purchase of debt issued by a metropolitan district by any entity where a district director has a conflict of interest. Representative Weisman provided a handout (Attachment D). 04:06:20 PM The bill sponsor responded to questions from committee members. 04:21:44 PM Brian Matise, representing themself, testified in support of the bill. Tim Leonard, representing themself, testified in support of the bill. Mr. Leonard provided a handout packet (Attachment E). Mr. Steve Douglas, representing themself, testified in support of the bill. 04:32:16 PM The witnesses responded to questions from committee members. 04:51:53 PM Mrs. Kristi Pollard, representing Metro District Education Coalition, testified in opposition to the bill. Mr. Kevin Walker, representing themself, testified in opposition to the bill. Mr. Keith Simon, representing themself, testified in opposition to the bill. Mr. Robert Rogers, representing themself, testified in opposition to the bill. 05:06:07 PM The witness panel responded to questions from committee members. 05:14:36 PM The witness panel continued to respond to questions from committee members. 05:29:16 PM The witness panel continued to respond to questions from committee members. 05:29:37 PM Kyle Thomas, representing themself, testified in opposition to the bill. Ted Leighty, representing Colorado Association of Home Builders, testified in opposition to the bill. Ms. Jennifer Tanaka, representing themself, testified in opposition to the bill. Mr. Lawrence Jacobson, representing Westside Investment Partners, testified in opposition to the bill. 06:00:22 PM The witness panel responded to questions from committee members. 06:12:23 PM The witness panel continued to respond to questions from committee members. 06:24:09 PM Charles Wolfersberger, representing several homeowner controlled metro districts, testified in support of the bill. Mrs. Fayre Ruszczyk, representing Coloradans for Metro District Reform, testified in support of the bill. Karen Morgan, representing Green Mountain Water and Sanitation District, testified in support of the bill. Mr. John Henderson, representing themself, testified in support of the bill. 06:37:37 PM The witness panel responded to questions from committee members. 06:55:40 PM The witness panel continued to respond to questions from committee members. 06:56:31 PM Mr. Mark Witkiewicz, representing themself, testified in opposition to the bill. Ms. Maryann McGeady, representing themself, testified in opposition to the bill. Sarah Mercer, representing Sterling Ranch, testified in opposition to the bill. Stephanie Stanley, representing the Special District Association of Colorado, testified in opposition to the bill. 07:12:50 PM Mr Dave Davia, representing Homeownership Opportunity Alliance, testified in opposition to the bill. Mrs. Andrea Cole, representing Dominion Water & Sanitation District, testified in opposition to the bill. Mr. David Dazlich, representing Colorado Springs Chamber & Economic Development Corporation, testified in opposition to the bill. 07:18:02 PM Gene Osborne, representing themself as a small developer, testified in opposition to the bill. 07:22:28 PM The witness panel responded to questions from committee members. 07:25:22 PM Mr. Jim Gibson, representing themself, testified in support of the bill. Uploaded document testimony is included as Attachment F. Uploaded text testimony is included as Attachment G. 07:28:08 PM Mr. Gibson responded to questions from committee members. 07:38:25 PM Mr. Gibson continued to respond to questions from committee members. 07:41:58 PM The bill sponsor explained amendment L.002 (Attachment H). 07:43:35 PM The bill sponsor responded to questions from committee members. 07:45:56 PM Motion Adopt amendment L.002 (Attachment H). Moved Mabrey Seconded Dickson Boesenecker Yes Catlin No Dickson Yes Frizell No Lindsay Yes Mabrey Yes Mauro Excused Parenti Yes Vigil Yes Wilson No Winter T. No Lindstedt Yes Froelich Yes YES: 8 NO: 4 EXC: 1 ABS: 0 FINAL ACTION: PASS 07:46:17 PM The bill sponsor made closing remarks. 07:51:46 PM Committee members made closing remarks. 07:53:32 PM Motion Refer House Bill 23-1090, as amended, to the Committee of the Whole. Moved Vigil Seconded Parenti Boesenecker Yes Catlin No Dickson Yes Frizell No Lindsay Yes Mabrey Yes Mauro Excused Parenti Yes Vigil Yes Wilson No Winter T. No Lindstedt No Froelich Yes Final YES: 7 NO: 5 EXC: 1 ABS: 0 FINAL ACTION: PASS 07:54:09 PM The committee adjourned.