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D4ABC1BEFAF109E28725839F00823EE5 Hearing Summary




PUBLIC
BILL SUMMARY For SB19-042

HOUSE COMMITTEE ON STATE, VETERANS, & MILITARY AFFAIRS
Date Feb 12, 2019      
Location Old State Library



SB19-042 - Referred to the Committee of the Whole


04:42:40 PM  
The committee recessed
04:54:56 PM  
The committee came back to order.
04:55:33 PM  

Representative Sirota and Representative Arndt, co-prime bill sponsors, presented Senate Bill 19-042.  The bill enters Colorado into an agreement to elect the president by national popular vote, which becomes binding on member states once states with the majority of electoral votes ratify the agreement.  Under the agreement, presidential electors in Colorado are bound to support the winner of the national popular vote.  Any state and the District of Columbia may enter into the agreement.  The bill specifies the terms for states to withdraw from the agreement, and the process that must be undertaken by election officials to determine the national popular vote total and certify the national popular vote winner.  This agreement terminates if the Electoral College is abolished.

 

04:57:52 PM  
Shad Murib, Department of State, testified in support of the bill.
05:17:09 PM  

Linda Sorauf, League of Women Voters of Colorado, testified in support of the bill. She provided two handouts to the committee (Attachments C and  D).

05:20:14 PM  

Holly Monkman, League of Women Voters of Colorado, testified in support of the bill. She provided a handout to the committee (Attachment E).

05:22:25 PM  
Andrea Wilkins, League of Women Voters of Colorado, testified in support of the bill.
05:23:58 PM  

Mr. Murib answered questions from the committee. Ms. Sorauf answered questions from the committee.

05:29:55 PM  

Trent England, Oklahoma Council of Public Affairs, testified in opposition to the bill. He provided a handout to the committee (Attachment F).

05:34:22 PM  

Elise Brougham, representing herself, testified in opposition to the bill. She provided a handout to the committee (Attachment G).

05:37:58 PM  
Robert Hardaway, representing himself, testified in opposition to the bill. He provided a handout to the committee (Attachment H).
05:41:46 PM  

Joan Poston, representing herself, testified in opposition to the bill.

05:44:59 PM  

Mr. Hardaway and Mr. England answered questions from the committee.

05:50:49 PM  

Robert Nemanich, representing himself, testified in support of the bill.

05:55:10 PM  
Linda Petrie Bunch, representing herself, testified in support of the bill.
05:57:27 PM  

Ingrid Moore, representing herself, testified in support of the bill. She provided an informational packet to the committee (Attachment I).

06:01:28 PM  

Lynne Spence, representing herself, testified in opposition to the bill.

06:02:47 PM  

Ryan Williams, representing himself, testified in opposition to the bill. He provided a handout to the committee (Attachment J).

06:06:19 PM  

Jenna Ellis, Colorado Family Action, testified in opposition to the bill.

06:09:15 PM  

Don Bartron, representing himself, testified in opposition to the bill.

06:12:56 PM  

Ms. Ellis answered questions from the committee. Mr. Bartron responded to committee member comments. Ms. Ellis continued to answer questions from the committee.

06:18:35 PM  
Austin Smith, representing himself, testified in opposition to the bill.
06:21:16 PM  
LJ Van Belkum, representing herself, testified in opposition to the bill.
06:23:30 PM  

Brad Bergford, Commission for the Protection of Constitutional Rights, testified in opposition to the bill.

06:27:01 PM  

Glenda Bellio, representing herself, testified in opposition to the bill.

06:30:23 PM  
Mr. Bergford answered questions from the committee.
06:35:38 PM  

Amanda Gonzalez, Colorado Common Cause, testified in support of the bill.

06:39:40 PM  

Anna Evenson, representing herself, testified in support of the bill.

06:40:50 PM  
Chris Titterington, representing himself, testified in support of the bill. He provided a handout to the committee (Attachment K).
06:44:32 PM  

Sylvia Bernstein, representing herself, testified in support of the bill. She provided a handout to the committee (Attachment L).

06:48:05 PM  
Jim DeWall, representing himself, testified in support of the bill.
06:51:58 PM  

Beth Utton, representing herself, testified in support of the bill.

06:54:46 PM  
Stan Gelb, representing himself, testified in support of the bill.
06:57:31 PM  

Jody Deschenes, League of Women Voters of Larimer County, testified in support of the bill.

07:00:48 PM  
Sheri Carstensen, representing herself, testified in opposition to the bill.
07:02:44 PM  

Greg Trouth, representing himself, testified in opposition to the bill.

07:06:19 PM  
Jay Reano, representing himself, testified in opposition to the bill.
07:09:51 PM  

John Furuton, representing himself, testified in opposition to the bill.

07:13:17 PM  
Marilyn Hughes, representing herself, testified in support of the bill.
07:17:13 PM  

Helen Kelly, representing herself, testified in support of the bill. She read a statement by Peggy Leech, League of Women Voters of Boulder County, in support of the bill (Attachment M).

07:20:21 PM  

Douglas Crow, representing himself, testified in support of the bill.

07:22:48 PM  

Kate Shea, representing herself, testified in support of the bill. She provided a handout to the committee (Attachment N).

07:24:56 PM  

Eric Bodenstab, Unity Party of Colorado, testified in a neutral capacity.

07:28:10 PM  

Krista Rogman, representing herself, testified in opposition to the bill.

07:29:43 PM  
Mike Kinner, representing himself, testified in opposition to the bill.
07:33:25 PM  
Charles Carlisle, representing himself, testified in opposition to the bill.
07:36:44 PM  
Representative Humphrey made comments regarding the testimony.
07:37:20 PM  

Laura Avant, representing herself, testified in support of the bill.

07:41:23 PM  

Alan Bernstein, representing himself, testified in support of the bill.

07:44:27 PM  

Tom Curren, representing himself, testified in support of the bill.

07:47:51 PM  
Howard Christensen, representing himself, testified in support of the bill. He provided a handout to the committee (Attachment O).
07:52:16 PM  
Sue Moore, representing herself, testified in opposition to the bill.
07:54:54 PM  
Dale Knipp, representing himself, testified in opposition to the bill.
07:59:32 PM  
Tim Douglas, representing himself, testified in opposition to the bill.
08:03:34 PM  
Frances Giannelli Sinton, representing herself, testified in opposition to the bill.
08:06:40 PM  
Stuart Zeiger, representing himself, testified in support the bill.
08:10:36 PM  
Ralph Burns, representing himself, testified in support of the bill. He provided a handout to the committee (Attachment P).
08:13:25 PM  
Randy Chase, representing himself, testified in support of the bill.
08:15:24 PM  
Elton Fenwick Carlile, representing himself, testified in support of the bill.
08:19:52 PM  

Jeff Jensen, representing himself, testified in opposition to the bill.

08:23:39 PM  

Alyssa Khamma, Colorado Christian University, testified in opposition to the bill.

08:24:34 PM  

Larry Roche, representing himself, testified in opposition to the bill.

08:27:26 PM  

D.A. Bertram, representing himself, testified in opposition to the bill.

08:29:56 PM  
Noah Neumark, representing himself, testified in support of the bill.
08:31:38 PM  
Michael Lopez, representing himself, testified in opposition to the bill.
08:38:20 PM  

Marguerite Moreland, representing herself, testified in opposition to the bill.

08:40:49 PM  
Patricia Anthone, representing herself, testified in opposition to the bill.
08:43:59 PM  
TJ Nunley, representing himself, testified in opposition to the bill.
08:45:28 PM  
Matthew Moeller, representing himself, testified in opposition to the bill.
08:49:02 PM  
John Head, representing himself, testified in opposition to the bill. He referenced a memorandum he emailed to the committee (Attachment Q).
08:52:44 PM  
Ed Haynes, representing himself, testified in opposition to the bill.
08:56:03 PM  
Erik Lode, representing himself, testified in opposition to the bill.
08:58:45 PM  

Brian Olson, representing himself, testified in opposition to the bill.

09:04:11 PM  

Mark Gants, representing himself, testified in opposition to the bill.  He provided a handout to the committee (Attachment R).

09:06:15 PM  
Andrea Richardson, representing herself, testified in opposition to the bill.
09:09:06 PM  

Ted Pickenbrock, representing himself, testified in opposition to the bill.

09:11:32 PM  
Lemma Peterson, representing herself, testified in opposition of the bill.
09:14:15 PM  

John Gardia, representing himself, testified in opposition to the bill.

09:17:22 PM  
Ted Trimpa, National Popular Vote, testified in support of the bill.
09:20:30 PM  

Ray Haynes, former California State Senator, representing himself, testified in support of the bill.

09:26:05 PM  
Mr. Trimpa and Senator Haynes answered questions from the committee.
09:27:53 PM  

Representative Humphrey stated that the Colorado Corn Growers Assocation opposes Senate Bill 19-042. The committee received written statements regarding the bill from Geoff Dolman, Laura Felix, Virginia Gebhart, Jim Hoffmeyer, and Stan Kahler  (Attachment S to Attachment W).

09:28:39 PM  

Representative Humphrey made a motion to subpoena the Colorado Attorney General under Joint Rule 33 and House Rule 3 (b) (11). The committee recessed.

09:34:40 PM  

The committee came back to order.  The committee discussed the motion to subpoena the Colorado Attorney General.



09:35:21 PM
Motion Moved, pursuant to Joint Rule 33 and House Rule 3 (b) (11), to issue a subpoena for the Colorado Attorney General to appear before the committee.
Moved Humphrey
Seconded Williams D.
Duran No
Humphrey Yes
Lontine No
Melton No
Rich Yes
Sirota No
Williams D. Yes
Jaquez Lewis No
Kennedy No
YES: 3   NO: 6   EXC: 0   ABS:  0   FINAL ACTION:  FAIL
09:37:12 PM  

Representative Williams explained amendment L.009 (Attachment X). Representative Sirota commented on amendment L.009.



09:38:05 PM
Motion Adopt amendment L.009 (Attachment X).
Moved Williams D.
Seconded Humphrey
Duran No
Humphrey Yes
Lontine No
Melton No
Rich Yes
Sirota No
Williams D. Yes
Jaquez Lewis No
Kennedy No
YES: 3   NO: 6   EXC: 0   ABS:  0   FINAL ACTION:  FAIL
09:38:06 PM  

Representative Williams explained amendment L.010 (Attachment Y). Representative Sirota made comments regarding amendment L.010.



09:40:46 PM
Motion Adopt amendment L.010 (Attachment Y).
Moved Williams D.
Seconded Humphrey
Duran No
Humphrey Yes
Lontine No
Melton No
Rich Yes
Sirota No
Williams D. Yes
Jaquez Lewis No
Kennedy No
YES: 3   NO: 6   EXC: 0   ABS:  0   FINAL ACTION:  FAIL
09:40:47 PM  
Representative Arndt and Representative Sirota made concluding remarks about the bill. Committee members commented on the bill.


09:51:57 PM
Motion Refer Senate Bill 19-042 to the Committee of the Whole.
Moved Sirota
Seconded Melton
Duran Yes
Humphrey No
Lontine Yes
Melton Yes
Rich No
Sirota Yes
Williams D. No
Jaquez Lewis Yes
Kennedy Yes
Final YES: 6   NO: 3   EXC: 0   ABS:  0   FINAL ACTION:  PASS