H_JUD_2023A 05/05/2023 06:29:36 PM Committee Summary PUBLICSTAFF SUMMARY OF MEETINGHOUSE COMMITTEE ON JUDICIARY Date 05/05/2023 Attendance Amabile X Armagost X Epps X Evans X Garcia X Luck X Marshall X Sharbini X Snyder X Soper X Woodrow X Bacon X Weissman X Time 06:29:36 PM to 11:55:35 PM Place Old State Library This Meeting was called to order by Weissman This Report was prepared by Bo Pogue Hearing Items Action Taken hSB23-296 Amended, referred to House Appropriations hSB23-109 Postponed Indefinitely SB23-296 - Amended, referred to House Appropriations Attachment Tag File Name Attachment http://www2.leg.state.co.us/CLICS/CLICS2023A/commsumm.nsf/0/5F0938EC4E52...$File/Attachment A Merged.pdf?OpenElement Attachment A Merged.pdf Attachment http://www2.leg.state.co.us/CLICS/CLICS2023A/commsumm.nsf/0/F85B61BA03E3...$File/Attachment B.pdf?OpenElement Attachment B.pdf Attachment http://www2.leg.state.co.us/CLICS/CLICS2023A/commsumm.nsf/0/BDAE5F8958B5...$File/Attachment C.pdf?OpenElement Attachment C.pdf Attachment http://www2.leg.state.co.us/CLICS/CLICS2023A/commsumm.nsf/0/E215523FB1C0...$File/Attachment D.pdf?OpenElement Attachment D.pdf Attachment http://www2.leg.state.co.us/CLICS/CLICS2023A/commsumm.nsf/0/49E7555C897C...$File/Attachment E.pdf?OpenElement Attachment E.pdf Attachment http://www2.leg.state.co.us/CLICS/CLICS2023A/commsumm.nsf/0/0401F6C53692...$File/Attachment F.pdf?OpenElement Attachment F.pdf Attachment http://www2.leg.state.co.us/CLICS/CLICS2023A/commsumm.nsf/0/75A9CE069CCD...$File/Attachment G.pdf?OpenElement Attachment G.pdf Attachment http://www2.leg.state.co.us/CLICS/CLICS2023A/commsumm.nsf/0/20BF458F6AEA...$File/Attachment H.pdf?OpenElement Attachment H.pdf 06:29:49 PM Representatives Bacon and Herod, prime sponsors, presented Senate Bill 23-296, concerning protections for students against discriminatory practices at schools. Representative Bacon explained the effect of the bill and discussed its need. Representative Herod provided additional input on the merits of the legislation. Discussion ensued regarding federal Title IX implications of the bill, and the protected classes impacted by the bill. Discussion followed regarding the mens rea component of the bill, and the ability to address the behaviors targeted by the bill under current law. Representatives Bacon and Herod responded to questions regarding what types of behavior triggers a penalty under SB 23-296, and the potential for amending the bill to clarify certain elements. Discussion turned to immunity, which was removed by amendment in the Senate, and administrative burdens placed on schools by the bill. Representative Herod responded to questions regarding remedies available to protect students under the bill. Submitted testimony for the meeting's bills may be found at Attachment A. Additional written testimony on SB 23-296 may be found at Attachment B. 07:14:13 PM Carolyn Martin, representing Christian Home Educators of Colorado, testified in opposition to the bill. Craig Hein, representing Colorado School District Self Insurance Pool, testified in opposition to the bill. Michelle Murphy, representing Rural School Alliance and Colorado Association of School Executives, testified in opposition to the bill. Brad Bergford, representing Commission for the Protection of Constitutional Rights, testified in opposition to the bill. Discussion ensued regarding the potential clarifying effects of SB 23-296, and standards for determining sexual harassment. Ms. Murphy responded to questions regarding private causes of action under the bill. Mr. Bergford responded to questions regarding potential constitutional issues with the bill. 07:36:05 PM Mrs. Erin Meschke, representing herself, testified to amend the bill. Rachel Amspoker, representing Colorado Association of School Boards, testified to amend the bill. Wendy Birhanzel, representing Pikes Peak School District Alliance, testified to amend the bill. Angelina Sierra-Sandoval, representing Colorado League of Charter Schools, testified to amend the bill. Mrs. Meschke responded to questions regarding language in SB 23-296 that could be amended to address harassment of those who are not in a protected class. Ms. Birhanzel responded to questions regarding resources that schools would have to commit to adhere to the requirements of the bill, and Title IX coordinators in school districts. 07:56:11 PM Elizabeth Newman, representing Colorado Coalition Against Sexual Assault, testified in support of the bill. Ms. Cari Simon, representing herself, testified in support of the bill. Tracy Dundon, representing herself, testified in support of the bill. Ms. Jennifer McPherson, representing Colorado Civil Rights Division, was available to answer committee questions. Ms. Simon responded to questions regarding potential constitutional and federal preemption issues with SB 23-296. Ms. Newman responded to questions regarding language in the bill that is similar to the Victims Rights Act, particularly in the area of notifications. 08:15:15 PM Representative Bacon explained the effect of amendment L.030 (Attachment C). 08:15:22 PM Representative Bacon responded to questions regarding the clarifying aspects of amendment L.030 as to the legislation's intent, and a private cause of action under SB 23-296. 08:23:23 PM Motion Adopt amendment L.030 Moved Bacon Seconded Woodrow Amabile Yes Armagost No Epps Yes Evans No Garcia Yes Luck No Marshall Yes Sharbini Yes Snyder Yes Soper No Woodrow Yes Bacon Yes Weissman Yes YES: 9 NO: 4 EXC: 0 ABS: 0 FINAL ACTION: PASS 08:23:24 PM Representative Bacon explained the effect of amendment L.040 (Attachment D). 08:24:07 PM Representative Bacon responded to questions regarding who is being protected by amendment L.040, and the intent of the amendment. Representative Herod responded to questions regarding the impact of the amendment on school curriculum. 08:29:54 PM Motion Adopt amendment L.040 Moved Bacon Seconded Woodrow Amabile Yes Armagost No Epps Yes Evans No Garcia Yes Luck No Marshall Yes Sharbini Yes Snyder Yes Soper No Woodrow Yes Bacon Yes Weissman Yes YES: 9 NO: 4 EXC: 0 ABS: 0 FINAL ACTION: PASS 08:29:55 PM Representative Bacon explained the effect of amendment L.041 (Attachment E). 08:30:53 PM Representative Bacon responded to questions regarding what constitutes a "contractor" according to amendment L.041. 08:37:45 PM Motion Adopt amendment L.041 Moved Bacon Seconded Woodrow Amabile Yes Armagost No Epps Yes Evans No Garcia No Luck Yes Marshall Yes Sharbini Yes Snyder Yes Soper No Woodrow Yes Bacon Yes Weissman Yes YES: 9 NO: 4 EXC: 0 ABS: 0 FINAL ACTION: PASS 08:37:46 PM Representative Bacon explained the effect of amendment L.042 (Attachment F). 08:38:13 PM Representative Bacon responded to questions regarding references to law enforcement in amendment L.042, and employee training requirements in the amendment. 08:42:51 PM Motion Adopt amendment L.042 Moved Bacon Seconded Woodrow Amabile Yes Armagost No Epps Yes Evans Yes Garcia Yes Luck Yes Marshall Yes Sharbini Yes Snyder Yes Soper Yes Woodrow Yes Bacon Yes Weissman Yes YES: 12 NO: 1 EXC: 0 ABS: 0 FINAL ACTION: PASS 08:42:52 PM Representative Bacon explained the effect of amendment L.043 (Attachment G). 08:43:23 PM Representative Bacon responded to questions regarding a potential chilling effect on reporting by amendment L.043. Discussion ensued on this point. Mr. Conrad Imel, Office of Legislative Legal Services, explained a drafting convention. 08:49:19 PM Motion Adopt amendment L.043 Moved Bacon Seconded Woodrow Amabile Armagost Epps Evans Garcia Luck Marshall Sharbini Snyder Soper Woodrow Bacon Weissman YES: 0 NO: 0 EXC: 0 ABS: 0 FINAL ACTION: Pass Without Objection 08:49:20 PM Representative Bacon explained the effect of amendment L.044 (Attachment H). 08:51:58 PM Motion Adopt amendment L.044 Moved Bacon Seconded Epps Amabile Yes Armagost No Epps Yes Evans No Garcia Yes Luck No Marshall Yes Sharbini Yes Snyder Yes Soper No Woodrow Yes Bacon Yes Weissman Yes YES: 9 NO: 4 EXC: 0 ABS: 0 FINAL ACTION: PASS 08:51:59 PM Representatives Herod and Bacon provided closing remarks in support of SB 23-296. Various committee members provided their positions on the bill. 09:18:53 PM Motion Refer Senate Bill 23-296, as amended, to the Committee on Appropriations. Moved Bacon Seconded Epps Amabile Yes Armagost No Epps Yes Evans No Garcia Yes Luck No Marshall No Sharbini Yes Snyder Yes Soper No Woodrow Yes Bacon Yes Weissman Yes Final YES: 8 NO: 5 EXC: 0 ABS: 0 FINAL ACTION: PASS SB23-109 - Postponed Indefinitely Attachment Tag File Name Attachment http://www2.leg.state.co.us/CLICS/CLICS2023A/commsumm.nsf/0/BE20E6062A92...$File/Attachment I.pdf?OpenElement Attachment I.pdf Attachment http://www2.leg.state.co.us/CLICS/CLICS2023A/commsumm.nsf/0/0B49E85F8392...$File/Attachment J.pdf?OpenElement Attachment J.pdf Attachment http://www2.leg.state.co.us/CLICS/CLICS2023A/commsumm.nsf/0/6A9001F568D4...$File/Attachment K.pdf?OpenElement Attachment K.pdf Attachment http://www2.leg.state.co.us/CLICS/CLICS2023A/commsumm.nsf/0/537E85ECB9E5...$File/Attachment L.pdf?OpenElement Attachment L.pdf Attachment http://www2.leg.state.co.us/CLICS/CLICS2023A/commsumm.nsf/0/680B10309BE1...$File/Attachment M.pdf?OpenElement Attachment M.pdf 09:19:02 PM Representatives Snyder and Lynch, prime sponsors, presented Senate Bill 23-109, concerning a criminal penalty for the supplier when a person dies as a result of the use of a controlled substance. Representative Snyder explained the effect of the bill and discussed its need. Representative Lynch provided additional input on the merits of the bill. The sponsors answered several committee questions. Submitted written testimony on SB 23-109 may be found in Attachment I. 09:44:22 PM Timothy Lane, representing Colorado District Attorneys' Council, testified in support of the bill. Denver District Attorney Beth McCann, representing herself, testified in support of the bill. Deputy Chief Gregory Sadar, representing Colorado Association of the Chiefs of Police - Commerce City Police Department, testified in support of the bill. Mr. Lane responded to questions regarding criminal penalties for dealing in certain controlled substances under current law, and why these penalties are not impacting the drug trade. Mr. Lane responded to further questions regarding overdose trends due to certain drugs, and the types of cases filed under current laws targeting fentanyl. District Attorney McCann responded to questions regarding how SB 23-109 will assist prosecutors, and the benefits of the bill in the area of harm reduction. 10:04:34 PM Mrs. Racquel Garcia, representing HardBeauty & HardBeauty Foundation, testified in opposition to the bill. Dr. Donald Stader, representing The Naloxone Project, testified in opposition to the bill. Matt Pagnotti, representing Vivent Health, testified in opposition to the bill. Mr. Jason Vitello, representing Colorado Public Health Association, testified in opposition to the bill. Dr. Stader responded to questions regarding how drug laws impact his patients. Mr. Vitello responded to questions regarding treatment of drug users as compared to drug dealers by laws addressing narcotics. Discussion ensued regarding the threshold for being deemed a drug dealer in terms of the amount of drugs on the person. 10:24:30 PM Dr. Bryon Adinoff, representing Colorado Psychiatric Society, testified in opposition to the bill. Ms. Valerie Collins, representing herself, testified in opposition to the bill. Morgan Godvin, representing herself, testified in opposition to the bill. Ember Gren, representing herself, testified in opposition to the bill. 10:34:42 PM Mr. Jack Devie, representing himself, testified in opposition to the bill. Ms Jennifer Dillon, representing Colorado Drug Policy Coalition, testified in opposition to the bill. Committee members received a fact sheet opposing SB 23-109 (Attachment J). Taylor Pendergrass, representing ACLU of Colorado, testified in opposition to the bill. Dr. Jarratt Pytell, representing himself, testified in opposition to the bill. Committee members received a letter opposing the bill (Attachment K). 10:44:47 PM Bridget Anshus, representing Mental Health Colorado, testified in opposition to the bill. Mr. James Karbach, representing Colorado State Public Defender, testified in opposition to the bill. Mr. Travis Ayers, representing himself, testified in opposition to the bill. Ms. Thea Wessel, representing Colorado Association of Addiction Professionals, testified in opposition to the bill. Mr. Karbach provided clarity on a document he referenced during his testimony, and his position and perspective on some forthcoming amendments. Discussion returned to Mr. Karbach's cited research documents. Mr. Karbach responded to questions regarding how a drug prosecution is conducted, and how SB 23-109 would impact this. 11:03:36 PM Mr. Dave Wasserman, representing Conscious Consulting, testified in opposition to the bill. Ms. Tonya Wheeler, representing Advocates for Recovery Colorado, testified in opposition to the bill. Rebecca Wallace, representing Colorado Freedom Fund, testified in opposition to the bill. Valentina Atencio, representing herself, testified in opposition to the bill. 11:11:48 PM Ms. Sydney Melson, representing Colorado Providers Association, testified in opposition to the bill. Aubrey Wilde, representing Colorado Coalition for the Homeless, testified in opposition to the bill. 11:17:28 PM Mr. Kevin Franciotti, representing himself, testified in opposition to the bill. Mr. Jimmy Smrz, representing himself, testified in opposition to the bill. 11:22:01 PM Representative Snyder explained the effect of amendment L.044 (Attachment L). 11:24:59 PM Motion Adopt amendment L.044 Moved Snyder Seconded Evans Amabile Yes Armagost Yes Epps No Evans Yes Garcia No Luck Yes Marshall Yes Sharbini No Snyder Yes Soper Yes Woodrow Excused Bacon No Weissman No YES: 7 NO: 5 EXC: 1 ABS: 0 FINAL ACTION: PASS 11:27:33 PM Motion Adopt amendment L.045 Moved Snyder Seconded Evans Amabile No Armagost Yes Epps No Evans Yes Garcia No Luck No Marshall Yes Sharbini No Snyder Yes Soper Yes Woodrow No Bacon No Weissman No YES: 5 NO: 8 EXC: 0 ABS: 0 FINAL ACTION: FAIL 11:27:34 PM Representative Snyder explained the effect of amendment L.045 (Attachment M). 11:27:40 PM Representatives Snyder and Lynch provided closing remarks in support of SB 23-109. Various committee members provided their positions on the bill. 11:54:51 PM Motion Refer Senate Bill 23-109, as amended, to the Committee of the Whole. Moved Snyder Seconded Soper Amabile No Armagost Yes Epps No Evans Yes Garcia No Luck Yes Marshall No Sharbini No Snyder Yes Soper Yes Woodrow No Bacon No Weissman No YES: 5 NO: 8 EXC: 0 ABS: 0 FINAL ACTION: FAIL 11:55:23 PM Motion Postpone Senate Bill 23-109 indefinitely using a reversal of the previous roll call. There was no objection to the use of the reverse roll call, therefore, the bill was postponed indefinitely. Moved Woodrow Seconded Snyder Amabile Yes Armagost No Epps Yes Evans No Garcia Yes Luck No Marshall Yes Sharbini Yes Snyder No Soper No Woodrow Yes Bacon Yes Weissman Yes Final YES: 8 NO: 5 EXC: 0 ABS: 0 FINAL ACTION: PASS 11:55:35 PM The committee adjourned.