J_CBAC_2023A 02/24/2023 01:33:36 PM Committee Summary PUBLICSTAFF SUMMARY OF MEETINGJOINT COMMITTEE COMMITTEE ON CAPITOL BUILDING ADVISORY COMMITTEE Date 02/24/2023 Attendance Matt Becker X Maria Garcia Berry * Georgianna Contiguglia X Dawn DiPrince X Richard Lee X Lindstedt * Eric Mandil X Cindi Markwell * Moreno * Kurt Morrison X Danielle Oliveto X Lois Court X Time 01:33:36 PM to 03:06:25 PM Place SCR 357 This Meeting was called to order by Lois Court This Report was prepared by April Bernard Hearing Items Action Taken hDisplay of Colorado Constitution Committee Discussion Only hCommittee Business Committee Discussion Only hState Historical Fund Grant Agreement Committee Discussion Only hCapitol Building Wall Sconce Committee Discussion Only hStaff Updates Committee Discussion Only hBollards for Building Security Committee Discussion Only Display of Colorado Constitution - Committee Discussion Only Attachment Tag File Name Attachment A http://www2.leg.state.co.us/CLICS/CLICS2023A/commsumm.nsf/0/FF9744C7A19A...$File/Attachment A.pdf?OpenElement Attachment A.pdf 01:35:20 PM Aly Jabrocki, representing Colorado State Archives, presented the results of a study authorized by Senate Bill 22-102 to consider the public display of the original Colorado Constitution in the Capitol. A copy of the study was provided to the committee (Attachment A). Ms. Jabrocki responded to questions from the committee. 01:37:41 PM Jason Hanson, representing History Colorado, responded to questions froom the committee. 01:40:09 PM Jeanette Chapman, representing Legislative Council Staff, responded to questions from the committee regarding their responsibilities related to the display of the constitution under Senate Bill 22-012 and to the recommendations of the proposal. 01:40:48 PM Mr. Hanson responded to questions from the committee. 01:41:07 PM Dawn DiPrince, committee member and Executive Director of History Colorado, provided additional information about the proposal. 01:43:30 PM The committee decided to table the item for further action at the next committee meeting scheduled for May 19, 2023. 01:45:14 PM Richard Lee, committee member representing the Department of Personnel, talked about the need for a possible engineering study for placement of any type of secure case, budgeting needs, and expressed concerng about potential issues with keeping the document secure in the building. Committee Business - Committee Discussion Only 01:47:46 PM The committee members introduced themselves. 01:56:07 PM The committee discussed nominations for chair of the Captol Building Advisory Committee (CBAC). Former Senator Lois Court was appointed to chair of the committee. 01:57:08 PM The committee discussed nominations for vice chair of CBAC. Sen. Morneo was appointed to vice chair of the committee. State Historical Fund Grant Agreement - Committee Discussion Only Attachment Tag File Name Attachment B http://www2.leg.state.co.us/CLICS/CLICS2023A/commsumm.nsf/0/14AB2CCACDC0...$File/Attachment B.pdf?OpenElement Attachment B.pdf Attachment C http://www2.leg.state.co.us/CLICS/CLICS2023A/commsumm.nsf/0/86F40CA52CB0...$File/Attachment C.pdf?OpenElement Attachment C.pdf Attachment D http://www2.leg.state.co.us/CLICS/CLICS2023A/commsumm.nsf/0/595BE3F39795...$File/Attachment D.pdf?OpenElement Attachment D.pdf 01:58:05 PM Senator Morneno provided background on the issue of vacating an agreement between the legislative branch and History Colorado. The agreement provided $1 million in funding annually for building projects related to the historic preservation of the Capitol. The committee discussed a proposed letter to the Executive Committee of the Legislative Council to recommend vacating the agreement. A copy of a draft letter can by found in Attachment B. 01:58:42 PM Senator Moreno wanted feedback from the committee before action by the Executive Committee of Legislative Council. 01:59:39 PM Ms. DiPrince talked about the agreement, including future projects for the State Capitol. Currently, History Colorado typically supports 50 percent of the projects where grant applications are submitted. 02:01:42 PM Ms. DiPrince provided a handout (Attachment C), representing a snapshot of how $1 million dollars in investments from the State Historical Funds is spent. 02:04:18 PM Legislative Council staff provided a handout of remaining historic preservation projects around the building (Attachment D). 02:04:46 PM Ms. DiPrince responded to questions from committee members. 02:05:31 PM Ms. Chapman provided additional information about the projects listed in Attachment D. 02:06:26 PM Senator Moreno talked about the project list identified in Attachment D. He indicated that these are future projects that may be funded in other ways. 02:09:18 PM Ms. DiPrince provided statistical information about the impact of State Historical Fund projects, including $4 billion of indirect economic impacts, 20,000 jobs, and funds provided for projects in all 64 counties, including 60 to 70 percent of projects in rural areas. 02:11:07 PM There was a discussion about the steward of the agreement, the Executive Committee. The Executive Committee approved suspension of the agreement in 2020. 02:12:46 PM Motion Recommend that the Executive Committee of the Legislative Council vacate the agreement between the Legislative Branch and History Colorado in its entirety. Moved Lois Court Seconded Matt Becker Maria Garcia Berry Excused Georgianna Contiguglia Dawn DiPrince Richard Lee Lindstedt Excused Eric Mandil Cindi Markwell Moreno Excused Kurt Morrison Danielle Oliveto Lois Court YES: 0 NO: 0 EXC: 3 ABS: 0 FINAL ACTION: Pass Without Objection Capitol Building Wall Sconce - Committee Discussion Only 02:13:15 PM Ms. Chapman discussed the discovery of an antique sconce from the Capitol that is currently up for sale on Ebay. CBAC staff recommends that the committee attempt to obtain the sconce from the seller. Committee discussion ensued. 02:14:00 PM Ms. Chapmans said that staff recommend procuring the sconce, hopefully without expenditure of money. She said that there should also be a discussion about how to handle future items. 02:16:41 PM Committee members discussed the issue. 02:17:05 PM There was a discussion about alerting the lobbyist for eBay. There was a continued discussion about finding the item. 02:21:23 PM There was a discussion about an inventory of artifacts. The committee discussed the inventory as a way to track items. Ms. DiPrince talked about identifying items of historical importance in the State Capitol building. 02:22:29 PM Ms. DiPrince offered support from History Colorado on an inventory. She suggested that the inventory may if items disappear in the future. 02:24:10 PM There was a discussion about original items, including whether or not the sconce is original. The committee discussed speaker gavels and chairs, including that these items may not be original. 02:24:46 PM There was a discussion about coordinating with History Colorado for collections. 02:26:30 PM Committee discussion continued, including how to protect significant items going forward. 02:28:26 PM Committee members voiced an interest in identifying what should be protected; how to protect artifacts; an inventory; and legal standing. 02:29:54 PM Nicole Myers, representing the Office of Legislative Legal Services, discussed how to move forward with legal authority to retrieve items that were taken. 02:30:43 PM The committee discussed that there may not have been a policy at the time for disposal of property. There was a discussion about use of the state seal. 02:33:06 PM The committee discussed artificats that are original to the building, including a period of significance. Committee members discussed the need for a reference book with photographs that identify artificats. 02:35:12 PM There was a discussion about asking that the holder of the sconce donate the item to the committee. 02:35:47 PM Committee members suggested that staff work with History Colorado to continue or begin an inventory of items in the State Capitol that should remain in the buuilding, in addition to the Office of Legislative Legal Services reviewing the statutory authority to pursue items prior to and after the creation of CBAC. 02:37:41 PM There was a dicussion about a 501c3 non-profit, associated with State Capitol, including that the sconce could be donated to the existing non-profit. 02:39:47 PM Committee members sugested that a member or staff contact the seller to ask that the sconce be donated with a tax write off. 02:40:57 PM Ms. Chapman provided history about the sconce. 02:41:28 PM A committee member suggested that the State Patrol have a conversation with the seller, suggestion. Another committe member shared that the sconce appears to be from the Governor's office. 02:46:15 PM Captain Honn and Ms. Myers will talk about the situation, including legal authority to deal with the situation. Staff Updates - Committee Discussion Only 02:47:28 PM There was a discussion about presidential and governors portraits. Bollards for Building Security - Committee Discussion Only 02:50:50 PM The committee discussed security and bollards during an executive session. 03:05:50 PM Motion Motion to approve design option two. Moved Moreno Seconded Matt Becker Maria Garcia Berry Georgianna Contiguglia Dawn DiPrince Richard Lee Lindstedt Eric Mandil Cindi Markwell Moreno Kurt Morrison Danielle Oliveto Lois Court YES: 0 NO: 0 EXC: 0 ABS: 0 FINAL ACTION: Pass Without Objection 03:06:25 PM The committee adjourned.