S_SA_2023A 03/08/2023 09:51:14 AM Committee Summary PUBLICSTAFF SUMMARY OF MEETINGSENATE COMMITTEE ON STATE, VETERANS, & MILITARY AFFAIRS Date 03/08/2023 Attendance Baisley X Gonzales X Liston X Sullivan X Coleman X Time 09:51:14 AM to 09:17:36 PM Place Old Supreme Court This Meeting was called to order by Coleman This Report was prepared by Hamza Syed Hearing Items Action Taken hSB23-170 Amended, referred to the Committee of the Whole hSB23-168 Referred to the Committee of the Whole hSB23-169 Amended, referred to the Committee of the Whole SB23-170 - Amended, referred to the Committee of the Whole Attachment Tag File Name Attachment A http://www2.leg.state.co.us/CLICS/CLICS2023A/commsumm.nsf/0/BB975300E000...$File/Attachment A - Combined.pdf?OpenElement Attachment A - Combined.pdf Attachment B http://www2.leg.state.co.us/CLICS/CLICS2023A/commsumm.nsf/0/84A269022D45...$File/SB170_L.001.pdf?OpenElement SB170_L.001.pdf Attachment C http://www2.leg.state.co.us/CLICS/CLICS2023A/commsumm.nsf/0/215063B67705...$File/SB170_L.009.pdf?OpenElement SB170_L.009.pdf 10:10:41 AM Senators Fendberg and Sullivan, bill sponsors, presented Senate Bill 23-170. The bill allows community members, educators, licensed health-care professionals, mental health professionals, and district attorneys to petition for an extreme risk protection order. 10:26:50 AM The committee asked questions to the sponsors. 10:34:43 AM A panel of witnesses testified on the bill. Janet Drake, representing Department of Law, testified in support of the bill. Jane Dougherty, representing themself, testified in support of the bill. Colonel Matthew Packard, representing Colorado State Patrol, testified in support of the bill. Amie Baca-Oehlert, representing Colorado Education Association, testified in support of the bill. The committee asked questions to the panel. 10:41:59 AM A panel of witnesses testified on the bill. Taylor Rhodes, representing Rocky Mountain Gun Owners, testified in opposition to the bill. Brian Brickey, representing themself, testified in opposition to the bill. Darren Hill, representing themself, testified in opposition to the bill. Sheriff Darren Weekly, representing themself, testified in opposition to the bill. The committee asked questions to the panel. 10:57:24 AM A panel of witnesses testified on the bill. Rachael Hagar, representing themself, testified in support of the bill. Nadine Bridges, representing One Colorado, testified in support of the bill. Leanne Rupp, representing National Association of Social Workers, testified in support of the bill. Jessica Francois, representing Colorado Assocation of School Nurses, testifed in support of the bill. 11:15:50 AM A panel of witnesses testified on the bill. Nikki Goeser, representing themself, testifed against the bill. John Lott, representing Crime Research Prevention Center, testified in opposition to the bill. Erik Stone, representing Teller County, testified in opposition to the bill. Sheriff Joseph Roybal, representing El Paso County Sheriff's Office, testified in opposition to the bill. The committee asked questions to the panel. 11:24:05 AM A panel of witnesses testified on the bill. Dr. George Hertner, representing Emergency Medical Specialists, testified in support of the bill. Denver District Attorney Beth McCann, representing themself, testified in support of the bill. Dr. Allison Trop, representing Colorado Chapter of the American College of Emergency Physicians, testified in support of the bill. Julie Meyers, representing Colorado Chapter American Academy of Pediatrics, testified in support of the bill. The committee asked questions to the panel. 11:36:51 AM A panel of witnesses testified on the bill. Richard Orf, representing Associated Governments of Northwest Colorado, testified in opposition to the bill. Tanner Coors, representing themself, testified in opposition to the bill. Robert Strieby, representing themself, testified in opposition to the bill. William Zuzelski, representing themself, testified in opposition to the bill. The committee asked questions to the panel. 11:46:59 AM A panel of witnesses testified on the bill. Vic Bencomo, representing Giffords, testified in support of the bill. Commissioner Marta Loachamin, representing Boulder County, testified in support of the bill. Eileen McCarron, representing Colorado Ceasefire, testified in support of the bill. Tom Mauser, representing themself, testified in support of the bill. The committee asked questions to the panel. 11:59:19 AM A panel of witnesses testified on the bill. Mark Nilson, representing themself, testified in opposition to the bill. Todd Rathner, representing The Firearms Policy Coalition, testified in opposition to the bill. Christopher Trimble, representing themself, testified in opposition to the bill. Mark Tisdale, representing themself, testified in opposition to the bill. 12:08:28 PM A panel of witnesses testified on the bill. Sheila Longwell, representing themself, testified in support of the bill. Connie Boyd, representing themself, testified in support of the bill. Mary Parker, representing themself, testified in support of the bill. Rebekah Venturella, representing themself, testified in support of the bill. Benjamin Teevan, representing themself, testified in support of the bill. The committee asked questions to the panel. 12:25:19 PM A panel of witnesses testified on the bill. Ronald Dietz, representing themself, testified in opposition to the bill. Tiffany Taylor, representing themself, testified in opposition to the bill. John Lockamy, representing themself, testified in opposition to the bill. Lesley Hollywood, representing Rally for our Rights, testified in opposition to the bill. 12:34:01 PM A panel of witnesses testified on the bill. Jennifer Cunningham, representing NAMI Boulder County, testified in support of the bill. Ian Coggins, representing themself, testified in support of the bill. Kelly Murphy, representing themself, testified in support of the bill. Kallie Leyba, representing American Federation of Teachers, Colorado, testified in support of the bill. 12:43:36 PM A panel of witnesses testified on the bill. Andrew Lucas, representing themself, testified in opposition to the bill. Vern Sutcliffe, representing themself, testified in opposition to the bill. Darcy Schoening, representing themself, testified in opposition to the bill. Lucas Baumgartner, representing themself, testified in opposition to the bill. 12:55:08 PM A panel of witnesses testified on the bill. Michael Dougherty, representing District Attorney's Office - Boulder County, testified in support of the bill. Claire Lucas, representing themself, testified in support of the bill. Mary Susan Carabello, representing themself, testified in support of the bill. Dawn Reinfeld, representing Blue Rising, testified in support of the bill. The committee asked questions to the panel. 01:16:53 PM A panel of witnesses testified on the bill. Alicia Garcia, representing themself, testified in opposition to the bill. Jake Veith, representing themself, testified in opposition to the bill. 01:22:20 PM A panel of witnesses testified on the bill. Maisha Fields,representing themself, testified in support of the bill. Dr. David Knochel, representing themself, testified in support of the bill. Senator Evie Hudak, representing Colorado PTA, testified in support of the bill. 01:28:15 PM Written testimony can be found in Attachment A. 01:29:05 PM The bill sponsors presented Amendment L.001 (Attachment B) and L.009 (Attachment C). 01:30:06 PM Motion Adopt amendment L.001 (Attachment B) Moved Sullivan Seconded Baisley Gonzales Liston Sullivan Coleman YES: 0 NO: 0 EXC: 0 ABS: 0 FINAL ACTION: Pass Without Objection 01:31:13 PM Motion Adopt amendment L.009 (Attachment C) Moved Sullivan Seconded Baisley Gonzales Liston Sullivan Coleman YES: 0 NO: 0 EXC: 0 ABS: 0 FINAL ACTION: Pass Without Objection 01:31:46 PM The bill sponsors and committee gave final remarks. 01:55:09 PM Motion Refer Senate Bill 23-170, as amended, to the Committee of the Whole. Moved Sullivan Seconded Baisley No Gonzales Yes Liston No Sullivan Yes Coleman Yes Final YES: 3 NO: 2 EXC: 0 ABS: 0 FINAL ACTION: PASS SB23-168 - Referred to the Committee of the Whole Attachment Tag File Name Attachment D http://www2.leg.state.co.us/CLICS/CLICS2023A/commsumm.nsf/0/952B14BC271F...$File/Attachment D - Combined.pdf?OpenElement Attachment D - Combined.pdf Attachment E http://www2.leg.state.co.us/CLICS/CLICS2023A/commsumm.nsf/0/6AE73B7D0156...$File/Attachment E - Combined.pdf?OpenElement Attachment E - Combined.pdf 02:17:58 PM Senators Jaquez Lewis and Kolker, bill sponsors, presented Senate Bill 23-168. The bill allows a person or entity to bring suit for damages against firearm industry members. They presented a handout to the committee (Attachment D). 02:28:23 PM A panel of witnesses testified on the bill. Jane Dougherty, representing themself, testified in support of the bill. Tom Mauser, representing themself, testified in support of the bill. Vic Bencomo, representing Giffords, testified in support of the bill. Mary Parker, representing themself, testified in support of the bill. The committee asked questions to the panel. 02:40:50 PM A panel of witnesses testified on the bill. Kathy Hagen, representing themself, testified in support of the bill. Eileen McCarron, representing Colorado Ceasefire, testified in support of the bill. Lucy Sarkissian, representing Giffords, testified in support of the bill. Amanda Wilcox, representing Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, testified in support of the bill. The committee asked questions to the panel. 02:55:19 PM A panel of witnesses testified on the bill. Taylor Rhodes, representing Rocky Mountain Gun Owners, testified in opposition to the bill. Brian Brickey, representing themself, testified in opposition to the bill. Darren Hill, representing themself, testified in opposition to the bill. David Kopel, representing themself, testified in opposition to the bill. The committee asked questions to the panel. 03:12:24 PM A panel of witnesses testified on the bill. Anthony Bossio, representing themself, testified in opposition to the bill. Craig Williams, representing themself, testified in opposition to the bill. Sheriff Joseph Roybal, representing El Paso County Sheriff's Office, testified in opposition to the bill. Nephi Cole, representing National Shooting Sports Foundation, testified in opposition to the bill. The committee asked questions to the panel. 03:29:14 PM A panel of witnesses testified on the bill. Jake Veith, representing themself, testified in opposition to the bill. Richard Orf, representing Associated Governments of Northwest Colorado, testified in opposition to the bill. Justin Beard, representing themself, testified in opposition to the bill. Keith Emerson, representing themself, testified in opposition to the bill. The committee asked questions to the panel. 03:38:07 PM A panel of witnesses testified on the bill. Robert Strieby, representing themself, testified in opposition to the bill. William Zuzelski, representing themself, testified in opposition to the bill. Todd Rathner, representing The Firearms Policy Coalition, testified in opposition to the bill. Robert Copley, representing themself, testified in opposition to the bill. The committee asked questions to the panel. 04:05:03 PM The committee went on recess. 04:09:22 PM The committee came back to order. 04:10:45 PM A panel of witnesses testified on the bill. Ava Flanell, representing themself, testified in opposition to the bill. Edward Schoenheit, representing themself, testified in opposition to the bill. Mark Tisdale, representing themself, testified in opposition to the bill. Dr. Susan Hirsch, representing themself, testified in opposition to the bill. The committee asked questions to the panel. 04:22:58 PM A panel of witnesses testified on the bill. Ronald Dietz, representing themself, testified in opposition to the bill. Erin Meschke, representing themself, testified in opposition to the bill. Tiffany Taylor, representing themself, testified in opposition to the bill. Andrew Lucas, representing themself, testified in opposition to the bill. The committee asked questions to the panel. 04:34:28 PM A panel of witnesses testified on the bill. Vern Sutcliffe, representing themself, testified in opposition to the bill. David Heath, representing themself, testified in opposition to the bill. Dr. Lynda Zamora-Wilson, representing themself, testified in opposition to the bill. John Lott, representing themself, testified in opposition to the bill. 04:46:30 PM A panel of witnesses testified on the bill. Donna LaBelle, representing themself, testified in opposition to the bill. Daniel Fenlason, representing themself, testified in opposition to the bill. Justin Green, representing SDS Guns, testified to amend the bill. The committee asked questions to the panel. 04:56:11 PM A panel of witnesses testified on the bill. Sarah Hartmann, representing Moms Demand Action, testified in support of the bill. Kelly Murphy, representing themself, testified in support of the bill. Eleanor Cabell, representing themself, testified in support of the bill. Senator Evie Hudak, representing Colorado PTA, testified in support of the bill. 05:04:03 PM A panel of witnesses testified on the bill. Dr. Stephanie Greenberg, representing Colorado Faith Communities United to End Gun Violence, testified in support of the bill. Liddy Ballard, representing The Brady Campaign Against Gun Violence, testified in support of the bill. John Van Voorhis, representing themself, testified in support of the bill. Peter Gurfein, representing Giffords, testified in support of the bill. 05:12:55 PM Ari Freilich, representing the Giffords Law Center, testified in support of the bill. The committee asked qestions to the witness. 05:12:56 PM Written testimony can be found in Attachment E. 05:17:05 PM The bill sponsors and committee gave closing remarks. 05:35:06 PM Motion Refer Senate Bill 23-168 to the Committee of the Whole. Moved Sullivan Seconded Baisley No Gonzales Yes Liston No Sullivan Yes Coleman Yes Final YES: 3 NO: 2 EXC: 0 ABS: 0 FINAL ACTION: PASS SB23-169 - Amended, referred to the Committee of the Whole Attachment Tag File Name Attachment F http://www2.leg.state.co.us/CLICS/CLICS2023A/commsumm.nsf/0/0B823EA65DA1...$File/Attachment F - Combined.pdf?OpenElement Attachment F - Combined.pdf Attachment G http://www2.leg.state.co.us/CLICS/CLICS2023A/commsumm.nsf/0/99EB4F2EA252...$File/SB169_L.004.pdf?OpenElement SB169_L.004.pdf 05:36:18 PM The committee recessed. 05:58:27 PM The committee came back to order. 05:59:33 PM Senators Danielson and Mullica, bill sponsors, presented Senate Bill 23-169. The bill prohibits, with exceptions, the possession of firearms by persons under 21 years of age and providing firearms to such persons. 06:05:06 PM The committee asked questions to the sponsors. 06:06:47 PM A panel of witnesses testified on the bill. Dr. Ashley Hallo, representing American Academy of Pediatrics - Colorado Chapter, testified in support of the bill. Dawn Reinfeld, representing themself, testified in support of the bill. Mary Parker, representing themself, testified in support of the bill. Kelly Murphy, representing themself, testified in support of the bill. The committee asked questions to the panel. 06:17:34 PM A panel of witnesses testified on the bill. Dr. James Todd, representing Colorado Chapter of American Academy of Pediatrics; Children's Hospital Colorado, testified in support of the bill. Eleanor Cabell, representing themself, testified in support of the bill. Tom Mauser, representing themself, testified in support of the bill. Vic Bencomo, representing Giffords, testified in support of the bill. The committee asked questions to the panel. 06:40:53 PM A panel of witnesses testified on the bill. Liddy Ballard, representing The Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, testified in support of the bill. Dr. Stephanie Greenberg, representing Colorado Faith Communities United to End Gun Violence, testified in support of the bill. Jane Dougherty, representing themself, testified in support of the bill. Erica Crosby, representing themself, testified in support of the bill. 06:49:57 PM A panel of witnesses testified on the bill. Senator Evie Hudak, representing Colorado PTA, testified in support of the bill. Terri Straut, representing themself, testified in support of the bill. Michael Dougherty, representing District Attorney's Office - Boulder County, testified in a neutral position on the bill. 07:00:06 PM A panel of witnesses testified on the bill. Mayor Aron Lam, representing themself, testified in opposition to the bill. Commissioner Claire Levy, representing Boulder County, testified in support of the bill. Kathryn Ruud, representing themself, testified in support of the bill. Addison Kirkland, representing themself, testified in support of the bill. 07:12:22 PM A panel of witnesses testified on the bill. Alexander Cisneros, representing Students Demand Action, testified in support of the bill. Kallie Leyba, representing American Federation of Teachers, testified in support of the bill. Charlotte Goldstein, representing Students Demand Action, testified in support of the bill. Carl Hamm, representing Colorado Ceasefire, testified in support of the bill. The committee asked questions to the panel. 07:27:57 PM A panel of witnesses testified on the bill. Patricia McMahon, representing themself, testified in a neutral position on the bill. Patrick Brodbent, representing themself, testified to amend the bill. Erin Meschke, representing themself, testified in a neutral position on the bill. Jennifer Burbey, representing themself, testified to amend the bill. 07:36:03 PM A panel of witnesses testified on the bill. Taylor Rhodes, representing Rocky Mountain Gun Owners, testified in opposition to the bill. Barbara Miller, representing themself, testified in opposition to the bill. Ross Clotf, representing themself, testified in opposition to the bill. David Kopel, representing themself, testified in opposition to the bill. The committee asked questions to the panel. 07:54:20 PM A panel of witnesses testified on the bill. Erik Stone, representing Teller County, testified in opposition to the bill. Alicia Garcia, representing themself, testified in opposition to the bill. Nephi Coloe, representing National Shooting Sports Foundation, testified in opposition to the bill. Jake Veith, representing themself, testified in opposition to the bill. The committee asked questions to the panel. 08:08:51 PM A panel of witnesses testified on the bill. Ava Flanell, representing themself, testified in opposition to the bill. Griffen Mendez, representing themself, testified to amend the bill. Wesley Mendez, representing Colorado Bowhunters Association, testified to amend the bill. Richard Orf, representing Associated Governments of Northwest Colorado, testified in opposition to the bill. The committee asked questions to the panel. 08:25:39 PM A panel of witnesses testified on the bill. Taylor Rahmann, representing themself, testified in opposition to the bill. Travis Couture-Lovelady, representing National Rifle Association, testified in opposition to the bill. Mark Tisdale, representing themself, testified in opposition to the bill. Todd Rathner, representing The Firearms Policy Coalition, testified in opposition to the bill. The committee asked questions to the panel. 08:29:34 PM A panel of witnesses testified on the bill. Russ Cotten, representing themself, testified in opposition to the bill. John Lott, representing Crime Research Prevention Center, testified in opposition to the bill. Alexandra Hirsch, representing themself, testified in opposition to the bill. Ronald Dietz, representing themself, testified in opposition to the bill. 08:39:17 PM A panel of witnesses testified on the bill. Naomi Yates, representing themself, testified in opposition to the bill. Tiffany Taylor, representing themself, testified in opposition to the bill. Lesley Hollywood, representing Rally for our Rights, testified in opposition to the bill. Andrew Lucas, representing themself, testified in opposition to the bill. 08:50:41 PM A panel of witnesses testified on the bill. Kody Lostroh, representing themself, testified in opposition to the bill. Dr. Lynda Zamora-Wilson, representing themself, testified in opposition to the bill. Daniel Fenlason, representing themself, testified in opposition to the bill. Lori Saine, representing themself, testified in opposition to the bill. The committee asked questions to the panel. 09:06:25 PM Written testimony can be found in Attachment F. 09:06:26 PM The bill sponsors presented Amendment L.004 (Attachment G). 09:08:39 PM Motion Adopt amendment L.004 (Attachment G) Moved Sullivan Seconded Baisley No Gonzales Yes Liston No Sullivan Yes Coleman Yes YES: 3 NO: 2 EXC: 0 ABS: 0 FINAL ACTION: PASS 09:08:59 PM The bill sponsors and committee gave final remarks. 09:17:08 PM Motion Refer Senate Bill 23-169, as amended, to the Committee of the Whole. Moved Sullivan Seconded Baisley No Gonzales Yes Liston No Sullivan Yes Coleman Yes Final YES: 3 NO: 2 EXC: 0 ABS: 0 FINAL ACTION: PASS 09:17:36 PM The committee adjourned.
